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Ranger Jonah · May 24, 2009, 04:23 PM // 16:23

Agreed FengShui, although sometimes I have to turn on local chat so I can shout at the warrior running meteor shower >.>

dilan155 · May 24, 2009, 05:02 PM // 17:02

its fine to use PvX builds, but once you get used to the build you should try to alter it just a little bit with your own skills.

Aldric · May 24, 2009, 10:22 PM // 22:22

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Originally Posted by FengShuiDove

"You pussy runner, stop running away"

This was said to me the other day when running Mels Ranger in AB , after I had killed a wammo by keeping at bow length and plinking away at him. Another warrior kept insulting me after I twice stopped dead so his bulls missed.

PvX is fine imo aslong as you play around with the skills to suit your skill/style and aim and don't just treat it like is a bloody gospel.

dusanyu · May 25, 2009, 12:29 AM // 00:29

Only Problem with PvX is some of the Builds are Over rated on the site. but that is a problem with portions of the Community of that site not being the sharpest axes in the armory. Secondly some of the Builds are out of day and remain in the "great" Section

example look at "Great Working GvG builds
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Category:G...ing_GvG_builds
No Honor is still being listed even thow it has been nerfed eight ways from Sunday

also if you look at the No honor build they got the ranger wrong (No mending touch WTF?)

but in general the builds are decent Just don't put too much stock in the commentary.

Linkusmax · May 25, 2009, 03:23 AM // 03:23

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Originally Posted by Ranger Jonah

Agreed FengShui, although sometimes I have to turn on local chat so I can shout at the warrior running meteor shower >.>

But How can I run my Hamshower Warrior then! (Bulls charge wraaagh)

Snow Bunny · May 25, 2009, 06:42 AM // 06:42

PvX builds, no matter how mangled they are with respect to the good builds they are failing to copy, are nevertheless better than the Spirit Strength builds everyone runs.

It is the lesser of 2 evils.

Alleji · May 25, 2009, 06:44 AM // 06:44

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Originally Posted by Deimos Zargarda

I myself am a r10 Hero, 4 glad

<...>

So my question is, why do ppl hate PvX users that much?

You should really know the answer yourself.

Deimos Zargarda · May 25, 2009, 10:09 AM // 10:09

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Originally Posted by Alleji

You should really know the answer yourself.

I do, just needed it confirmed.

So in other words, nothing wrong with PvX, and those ppl calling you a PvX noob or whatever, simply shouldnt be taken seriously at all.

superraptors · May 25, 2009, 10:14 AM // 10:14

i dont get the pve scrubs calling a WORKING build, a pvx build, its a working meta build which is most viable e.g shock axe a build thats been ran forever, pvx is a trash site for worthless pvers
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Bdsm kinky

Squishy ftw · May 25, 2009, 01:19 PM // 13:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

PvX builds, no matter how mangled they are with respect to the good builds they are failing to copy, are nevertheless better than the Spirit Strength builds everyone runs.

It is the lesser of 2 evils.

You're just jealous of the awesomeness that is Spirit Strength.

But ye, PvX is just fine. People calling others PvX noobs are usually noobs themselves who can't take a defeat.

360° · May 25, 2009, 04:55 PM // 16:55

Calling someone PvXnoob or the like is justified when you can see that the person has just copied the build from there. Lack of weaponswapping is the best sign of it imo. When someone with a good build just stands in one weapon set, even if it's just the defensive one, is 99% surely a guy who has just copied the build.

Akaraxle · May 26, 2009, 08:45 PM // 20:45

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Originally Posted by Deimos Zargarda

I myself am a r10 Hero, 4 glad, which only shows that I do alot of PvP but I still can find myself surfin on PvX now and then.

Two considerations:
1) Your titles do not mean s***;
2) People calling other noobs for using PvX builds are dumbf*cks and should be ignored.

/thread

Chicken Ftw · May 26, 2009, 08:50 PM // 20:50

Pretty sure he said the same thing about his titles, reading comprehension ftw.

Quote:

I myself am a r10 Hero, 4 glad, which only shows that I do alot of PvP

Akaraxle · May 26, 2009, 08:54 PM // 20:54

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Originally Posted by Chicken Ftw

Pretty sure he said the same thing about his titles, reading comprehension ftw.

I did comprehend, I was just restating the blatant to make sure I hit someone's (e.g. yours) nerve.

haggus71 · May 26, 2009, 09:02 PM // 21:02

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Originally Posted by Akaraxle

I did comprehend, I was just restating the blatant to make sure I hit someone's (e.g. yours) nerve.

...which is the definition of a troll.

gg

Chicken Ftw · May 26, 2009, 09:08 PM // 21:08

It's amusing really. Trolls trolling trolls. I love this place.

Fay Vert · May 26, 2009, 09:28 PM // 21:28

PvX is a great resource and most of the good builds are on there.

One problem is quality control, there are some truely dreadful and inefficient builds there that are rated great by some idiot or another (who ARE these people?).

The other main problem is having a build and knowing how to use it are two different things, sometimes the explanation on PvX is not very good and many poorer players just mash buttons in any order thinking that the build is good so the team problem can't be them.

Overall though, unless you kow what you are doing, PvX is an excellent starting place, just don't let it be the ending place too.

Athrun Feya · May 27, 2009, 11:26 AM // 11:26

there's a few problems with pvx really, speaking as a reasonably active contibutor.

Rating System and Bias
Firstly the rating system is poor. Builds that even verge on meta will be awarded 5-5-X by some tard and basically everything else is trashed. So no surprise everyone ends up with very similar builds. Generally, as long as you have the balls to stand your ground and manage to successfully convince the pvx circlejerks your build is a winner, or already belong to said group, then it will be. There's also huge PvP biasing, so much of the PvE section is neglected, a lot things become outdated or ineffective due to skill changes but remain as they are for months.

The Holy Grail
PvX should be there to be PuG-friendly and give those with no idea at least SOME idea about how to complete something or try something. For better players it should be a backbone or concept to a better build that requires more co-ordination or skill. Instead, however, people are taking the builds as a be all and end all (especially in pve), when really some of them are just made by players as average as the next and could always be improved. The versions of the build are far from terrible, but could also be improved significantly.

dr love · May 27, 2009, 12:16 PM // 12:16

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Originally Posted by kunt0r

People who make fun of other peoples builds suck themselves but just don't realize it.

definitely this ^^ some bad players don't like to lose to 'meta/common' builds and also insist on not playing them themselves because they want to be 'original' (i.e. bad)

MithranArkanere · May 27, 2009, 12:22 PM // 12:22

I only use PvX to get some ideas. Some of them are a good point to start with. Then I made the appropriate changes to make them actually work.

They should add some kind of warning to people so they do just pick the builds and use them as-is.